On Jun 30, 2011, at 12:17 PM, "Stephen [kiwin] PALM" <palm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It is not for "us" to decide when a user's network is not worth expending > any more energy on. They have deployed their network... > and do not want to expend any more energy themselves. If their SP deploys > IPv6 inelegantly, the user would have a lot of frustration/work. Which > will generate many expensive tech support calls... and potentially lost customers. Agreed that we need to avoid any disruptions of existing networks, devices and deployment scenarios. I think we should avoid expending energy on *new* functions for IPv4. - Ralph > > It's not the protocols... it's the DEPLOYED APPLICATIONS and DEVICES that users have. > > regards, kiwin > > On 6/30/2011 9:11 AM, Ralph Droms (rdroms) wrote: >> >> "Gone" isn't so important as "not worth expending any more energy on.". So I'm with Keith and would like to find some words like "when it doesn't take any more work." >> >> - Ralph >> >> On Jun 30, 2011, at 12:00 PM, "Fernando Gont"<fernando@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> On 06/30/2011 12:46 PM, Keith Moore wrote: >>>> I'd like for this group to relax the "wherever possible" bit, so as to not preclude solutions where IPv6 can do a better job than IPv4. >>>> >>>> IPv4 is a dinosaur gasping for its last breaths. >>> >>> Just curious: when you expect IPv4 to be gone? (including "gone" from >>> home and enterprise networks) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -- >>> Fernando Gont >>> e-mail: fernando@xxxxxxxxxxx || fgont@xxxxxxx >>> PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fun mailing list >>> fun@xxxxxxxx >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fun >> _______________________________________________ >> fun mailing list >> fun@xxxxxxxx >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fun >> > > -- > Stephen [kiwin] Palm Ph.D. E: palm@xxxxxxxxx > Senior Technical Director T: +1-949-926-PALM > Broadcom Broadband Communications Group F: +1-949-926-7256 > Irvine, California W: http://www.kiwin.com > Secondary email accounts: stephenpalm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx palm@xxxxxxxxxxxx > s.palm@xxxxxxxx palm@xxxxxx spalm@xxxxxxxxxx palm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf