On 21/06/2011 03:24, Randall Gellens wrote: > At 3:55 AM +0200 6/20/11, Henk Uijterwaal wrote: > >> May I point out that there has been a survey on the topic and the community >> expressed a clear preference for Quebec over other Canadian cities, knowing >> that travel would be longer and the number of cheap alternative hotels >> smaller. > > My recollection, which of course could easily be flawed, is that the survey did > not make clear that travel is significantly more difficult to Quebec than other > Canadian cities, nor that hotels are more expensive. My recollection is that > after the survey there was much discussion of this issue, with a number of > people pointing out a number of fairly important problems with the survey. Off > the top of my head, in addition to not mentioning the travel issue, also > included lumping together into "this group" or "that group" cities which are > very different in terms of travel connection, venue suitability, cost, etc. I checked and the survey said that the advantage of Vancouver (the alternative for Quebec) was that travel to Vancouver was a lot easier than to Quebec. At the time when the survey was taken, Quebec had the advantage that there was a much wider range of alternative/cheaper hotels available than in Vancouver within reasonable distance of the meeting venue. Of course, room rates outside the host hotel are not under the control of the IETF and can change in the 2 years between fixing the location and the actual meeting. Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk(at)uijterwaal.nl http://www.uijterwaal.nl Phone: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There appears to have been a collective retreat from reality that day. (John Glanfield, on an engineering project) _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf