On Jun 11, 2011, at 4:54 PM, John Levine wrote: >> If we want IPv6 to be available to the average user, I think it's >> fair to assume that the average user won't get past the cluelessness. > > The average user is never going to call up and ask "can I get IPv6 as > part of my bundle along with the Home Shopping Network" so the first > level cluelessness doesn't matter. > > It's going to be available to the average user when the average cable > or DSL modem autoconfigures itself to offer IPv6, and SLAAC and DHCPv6 > work well enough on average consumer PCs and other wifi devices that > they set themselves up without any manual intervention. You know, > like they do with IPv4. > > I realize all these pieces work in theory, and often in practice if > you know what button to tweak. But Grandma is unlikely to tweak any > network buttons at all. agree. So when we're trying to evaluate whether IPv6 is widely available, it's not sufficient for it to be widely available to clueful users who can badger their way past first tier support. It has to be available to Grandma. Keith _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf