>I would say it's about time reality finally settles in. The reality is that for now and for the next several years, anyone who wants to communicate with "the Internet" had better figure out how to get their packets back and forth to the IPv4 Internet. This is totally unfair to new entrants who don't have a source of cheap IPv4 space. Tough. I'm all in favor of doing IPv6 experiments and opportunistically using it when you notice that a remote party supports it, but the urgency of doing so has been greatly overstated. R's, John _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf