Re: Proposed text for IESG Handling of Historic Status

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Sean,

Seems fine to me but, like Sam, I'd prefer to not clutter
abstracts  For a specification RFC that is rendered Historic by
a new specification, the combination of an "Obsoletes" header
and a note in the Introduction ought to be sufficient.

While the IESG is considering this, I would encourage you to
also consider the model used to make a specification that is
simply and obviously obsolete (and in A/S terms "not
recommended") Historic without having to have an I-D written and
processed into RFC via the same process used to create Standards
Track documents.  In the cases in which we want to move a
specification to Historic because it is a bad idea, having an
RFC to explain why it was a bad idea seems appropriate.  But for
the "no one cares about it any more" cases, it seems like a
lighter-weight procedure, such as a Last Call on the question
"does anyone believe that our impression that no one cares is
incorrect?"  might be in order (and much closer to the procedure
that was used when (and before) 2026 was adopted.

best,
    john


--On Thursday, June 02, 2011 15:17 -0400 Sean Turner
<turners@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The IESG is considering making this statement on the IESG
> Handling of Historic status.
> 
> We would appreciate community feedback.
> 
> Please can we have feedback by Thursday 9th June.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> spt
> 
> <statement begins>
> 
> RFC 2026 states the following:
> 
> A specification that has been superseded by a more recent
> specification or is for any other reason considered to be
> obsolete is assigned to the "Historic" level.
> 
> In practice, the Historic status is not automatically assigned
> to RFCs that have been "obsoleted".  That is, when an RFC that
> contains the "Obsoletes: RFC XXXX" header is published the RFC
> editor does not automatically apply the Historic status to the
> XXXX RFC.  Note that in some situations this is perfectly
> acceptable because multiple versions of an Internet Standard
> are permitted to "honor the installed base," as per RFC 2026.
> 
> If authors wish to change the status of RFCs that are in the
> obsoletes header to Historic, then the authors must include an
> explicit statement for the RFC editor to do so; preferably in
> the abstract and introduction.  Further, when an AD sponsors a
> draft that includes the obsoletes header, then the AD should
> ask the authors whether the authors intended to move the
> RFC(s) listed in the obsoletes header to Historic status.
> 
> If an author wishes to publish a document directly to Historic
> status the preferred approach is to publish an I-D with the
> "Intended Status: Historic" in the header.
> 
> Moving a document to Historic status means that the document
> is "not [an] Internet Standards in any sense," as per RFC 2026.
> 
> </statement ends>
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