On 5/8/2011 3:31 PM, todd glassey wrote:
On 5/8/2011 3:06 PM, Bob Braden wrote:
I just discovered an astonishing example of misinformation,
shall we say, in the IEEE electric power community. There is an
IEEE standards document C37.118, entitled (you don't care) "IEEE
Standard for Synchrophasors for Power Systems C37-118(TM)-2005",
which is currently of great importance for the instrumentation
of the national power grid. I just noticed that it references
RFC 793, and for curiosity looked to see how it was referenced.
I found:
[B8] RFC 793-1981,Transmission Control Protocol DARPA
Internet Program Protocol Specification.[12]
OK so far, except maybe for the DARPA part. Now look at footnote
12:
12 RFC standards are available from Global Engineering
Documents, 15 Inverness Way East, Englewood, CO 80112, USA (http://global.ihs.com/).
Hmmm. Does the IETF publication license allow this? the commercial
resale of its documents?
Doesnt this also then tend to violate the intent of the IP Trust
and its role? One would think if anyone was to make money on
republication of IETF intellectual properties it was supposed to
be the IETF's trust.
Try this search - but this also opens the question as to what any
other contributor in an effort's rights to are in subsidiary
publications?
http://global.ihs.com/search_res.cfm?currency_code=USD&customer_id=2125442C5B0A&shopping_cart_id=2925583B2B4B303C495A2D5B260A&country_code=US&lang_code=ENGL
Todd
Going to that web site, you find:
| RFC 793 - Complete Document |
| Revision / Edition:
81 Chg: Date: 09/00/81 |
TRANSMISSION CONTROL PROTOCOL DARPA INTERNET PROGRAM
PROTOCOL SPECIFICATION
|
| Comments:
|
|
| Superseding
Document: |
|
| Page Count: |
90 |
| In Stock: |
Yes |
| Hardcopy Price:
|
$
47.00 |
 |
and:
| Customers
who purchased RFC 793 have also purchased |
| |
EIA-748
: EARNED VALUE MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS |
| |
IETF
RFC 2460 : INTERNET PROTOCOL, VERSION 6 (IPV6)
SPECIFICATION |
| |
RFC
768 : USER DATAGRAM PROTOCOL |
| |
RFC
791 : INTERNET PROTOCOL DARPA INTERNET PROGRAM
PROTOCOL SPECIFICATION |
Now, it has always been IETF's (and even before there was an
IETF, Jon Postel's) policy to allow people to sell RFCs. What
astonishes me is that clever people in the IEEE don't know RFCs
are available free online. I guess RFCs remain so
counter-cultural that industrial types don't get it. I wonder
how many other IEEE standards contain similar RFC-for-pay
references..
Bob Braden
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