Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt> (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Procedures for the Management of the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry) to BCP

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To clarify some of this discussion, providing some context that might be useful:

1) the current doc already explicitly states the procedures for assignment in each range of ports (see Sec 8.1.1).

2) Sec 8.1.1 *already* states that IESG approval through IETF process is a valid path for assignment, distinct from Expert Review. Since that appears to be a point of confusion, I'll quote it directly:

   o  Ports in the User Ports range (1024-49151) are available for
      assignment through IANA, and MAY be used as service identifiers
      upon successful assignment.  Because assigning a port number for a
      specific application consumes a fraction of the shared resource
      that is the port number registry, IANA will require the requester
      to document the intended use of the port number.  This
      documentation will be input to the "Expert Review" procedure
      [RFC5226], by which IANA will have a technical expert review the
      request to determine whether to grant the assignment.  The
      submitted documentation MUST explain why using a port number in
      the Dynamic Ports range is unsuitable for the given application.
      Ports in the User Ports range may also be assigned under the "IETF
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Review" or "IESG Approval" procedures [RFC5226], which is how most
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      assignments for IETF protocols are handled.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

   o  Ports in the System Ports range (0-1023) are also available for
      assignment through IANA.  Because the System Ports range is both
      the smallest and the most densely allocated, the requirements for
      new assignments are more strict than those for the User Ports
      range, and will only be granted under the "IETF Review" or "IESG
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Approval" procedures [RFC5226].  A request for a System Port
      ^^^^^^^^^
      number MUST document *both* why using a port number from the
      Dynamic Ports range is unsuitable *and* why using a port number
      from the User Ports range is unsuitable for that application.

3) section 7 has NOTHING TO DO with the procedures this document updates. That section has plenty of words to avoid any such impression. And no, we don't need to define "strives", IMO - since NOTHING IN THAT SECTION IS BINDING.

Again, since this is a persistent cause of confusion, I quote from that section:

   This section summarizes the current principles by which IANA handles
   the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry and
   attempts to conserve the port number space.  This description is
   intended to inform applicants requesting service names and port
   numbers.  IANA has flexibility beyond these principles when handling
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   assignment requests; other factors may come into play, and exceptions
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                                          **************
   may be made to best serve the needs of the Internet.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   ***********

If you need more explicit words, the term "non-binding" can be added.

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There's a doc I drafted in TSVWG which is a more appropriate venue to discuss this issue (draft-touch-tsvwg-port-use0. I encourage those interested in these issues to continue discussion on that list, not on this general list.

For this document, if this section is causing confusion, it should be removed, since it is already included in this other doc and can be vetted there.

Joe
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