> I'm a member and also the secretary of Operations directorate. the ops dir is a joke. does reviews for an area director who does not do his/her own? there is an ops cabal that meets at ietf and has ML etc. all actual ops except for one guest, the actual ops director, ron. > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/Directorates > You can see many of us do not have the affiliation of operators. welcome to the ietf > I'm also a member of Security directorate. must be fun. randy _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf