Re: Old transport-layer protocols to Historic?

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07.01.2011 21:53, Bob Hinden wrote:
Mykyta,


On Jan 5, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Mykyta Yevstifeyev wrote:

Hello all,

There have been a discussion on tsvwg mailing list about old transport layer protocols - exactly IRTP (RFC938), RDP (RFC908,1151) and NETBLT (RFC998). Initially there have been proposed to define IANA considerations for them. But after a discussion it was found out that it would be better to move them to Historic. I am writing to request more wider discussion on this topic.
I see little value even thinking about this.  It's looks like a "make work" project to me.  Just because something is "old", doesn't mean it is "historic" in the sense the label is used in the IETF.

Regarding RDP (RFC908, RFC1151), of which I am one of the authors, both are currently labeled as Experimental.  I do not see any reason to change that.

Bob


Dear all,

RFC2026 mentions:

  A specification that has been superseded by a more recent
    specification or is for any other reason considered to be obsolete is
    assigned to the "Historic" level.
and gives 2 reasons for making the RFC Historic: 1) RFC is obsoleted (superseded) or 2) obsolete.

Obsoleted = made obsolete. This is obvious. When one RFC replaces another, it obsoletes it, and second becomes obsolete.

What is obsolete (adj.)? Obsolete = deprecated, outdated, out of use, non-current, etc.

Moreover, RFC2026 does not set any other guidelines for setting the Historic status. That is why if the protocol is out of use, even specified by Experimental RFC, it is a reason to move its spec. to Historic, in accordance with RFC2026.

All the best,
Mykyta Yevstifeyev

There is quite strong consensus that IRTP should be Historic. There is a registered draft on this topic:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yevstifeyev-tsvwg-irtp-to-historic/

But as for others it should be discussed. Moreover, maybe anyone knows some other old transport-layer protocols that are no longer in use?

Please copy tour answer to tsvwg@xxxxxxxx

All the best,
Mykyta Yevstifeyev
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