Keep in mind that the volunteers don't typically have any time to partake in the meeting itself, in fact, on average they dont' even partake in the cookie breaks. We do separately fund the NOC activities in various ways, but in practice "free registration" only amounts to a badge and the T-shirt which itself is sponsored separately. The few hardship cases in question aren't worth making a fuss about in my opinion. The Mayor of Hiroshima was presented with an IETF bage and T-shirt and promptly changed into said attire. Whether or not he was counted as non-paying I do not know, but I am certain he didn't make it to any working groups, even if in theory he could have. Bert on the other hand has clearly been taking advantage of us for years, we should put a stop to that :-) Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf