The waist of the hourglass doesn't need that much work... and in fact a mature system like the internet seems to quite successfully resist change there. joel On 10/27/10 2:48 PM, Bob Braden wrote: > > Tony, > > I note that there seems to be some correlation between the degradation > of the IETF process and > the disappearance of the Internet research community from the IETF (the > US government > decided that no further R&D funding was required, since the Internet was > "done".) > > Bob Braden >> It would work if the overall process were more efficient. Now we >> effectively >> go WG I-D to full IS, which is what your eloquent overview of the driving >> force notes. If we truncated WG I-D at the common points people could >> agree >> to start implementing, and have PS actually document the evolution of the >> implementations, we would get back closer to when the IETF was >> productive. ... > >> Tony >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf