On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Dave CROCKER <dhc2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > As a metric, once a working group has decided to issue a new Internet Draft, > it takes almost no time to issue it. Assuming no format hiccups, it's > minutes. The reality is that Internet-Drafts have become an archival series. While they expire from consideration, they remain extant and can be easily referenced and retrieved. Participants in the IETF commonly want a clear specification, on which there is general agreement and which is available to all. Sometimes they get that long before something is made a standard at any level through the formal process ("The Internet runs on Internet-drafts") by simply adopting some I-D and running with it. Certainly lots of the creation of running code for participants and their organizations is created at this stage. There is value in using the standards process to identify which specifications have achieved that general agreement, but with I-Ds as an archival series, there is no real way we can drive activity (such as demanding interoperable implementations) based on access to the standards designations. I think that any review of our use of standards designations or how they relate to formal process needs to have some consideration of the I-D aspects; this is a failure in my own proposal, and it may be important to consider in any of them. regards, Ted _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf