Re: what is the problem bis

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On 10/26/2010 9:08 AM, Scott O. Bradner wrote:
while we are the topic of problems

No Scott the problem is that the IETF is not a lobbyist organization and your blocking the standardization of anything based on whether the Internet "needs it or not" makes your IETF the controller of what gets routed and what not, it also creates trememdous liability and opens all of the parties here to litigation based therein one would think...

Todd Glassey


Russ basically proposes too change the maturity warning label on IETF
standard track RFCs -- remove baby before folding carriage -- this
hardly seems like our biggest problems

The IETF publishes a lot of standards track RFCs each year.  Mostly
these are PS (186 in 2009), some DS (3 in 2009), and some S (6 in 2009).

SOME of these technologies are just what the community needs and just
when the community needs them.  But too many are
    1/ too late for the market - implementations based on IDs
       deployed or other technologies adopted
    2/ unneeded by the market - does not meet a need that people
       think they have
    3/ broken - flawed in some way that prevents actual deployment
    4/ too complex - hard and costly to correctly implement
    5/ unmanageable - cannot be run by humans

Seems to me that the issue of how the IETF can be better at producing
just what the community needs just when the community needs it is more
important than maturity warning labels.

Scott
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