On 10/20/2010 2:15 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > I use telephone numbers, but I don't use a dial pad to dial. > > And I strongly suspect that my mode of use is the norm. > > > Since we are talking about an optimization here, as opposed to a functional > capability, I think it rather more important to look at the real > requirements and optimize for that case rather than optimize for a mode of > use that is rapidly becoming obsolete. Amen > > > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Richard Shockey <richard@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> So what is your point ..you don’t use phone numbers so the rest of the >> planet shouldn’t? >> >> >> >> *From:* Phillip Hallam-Baker [mailto:hallam@xxxxxxxxx] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:42 PM >> *To:* Paul Hoffman >> *Cc:* bill manning; Richard Shockey; Ray Bellis; >> draft-iab-dns-applications@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx >> >> *Subject:* Re: draft-iab-dns-applications - clarification re: Send-N >> >> >> >> I don't much see the issue here. >> >> >> >> Looking at my AT&T records, I have made about 1000 iphone calls in the past >> year. Of those less than 50 are to numbers not in my contacts and I probably >> dialed half of those using Safari. >> >> >> >> Telephone numbers are not going away, but telephone dialing is already a >> necessary legacy thing more than a current requirement. >> >> >> >> >> >> At this point I don't think that there are any telephone numbers I dial >> from memory. >> >> >> >> I think that the underlying problem here is that the crappy POTS handsets >> on sale today do not interface to Internet telephony systems well. >> >> >> >> This whole problem would go away if Cisco and the other makers of VOIP >> bridges worked out that the real market requirement here is for a box that >> plugs into an ethernet port and connects to DECT6.0 telephones rather than a >> box that plugs into an ethernet port and has telephone wires sticking out >> the back. >> >> >> >> That way the VOIP system knows how long the telephone number from the phone >> book entry. Your basic problem here is that you are losing this information >> by converting all your data to the obsolete POTS wire format and back. >> >> >> >> Anyone who wants to do that should further realize that what they need to >> do is to allow for multiple boxes on the same VOIP connection in a secure >> fashion. DECT6.0 does not have the range to cover some houses and for some >> reason the pinheads that designed it seem to think that 6 phones is enough >> for one house. >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf -- //----------------------------------------------------------------- This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf