Hi Stefan, Thank you for the comment and sorry for the taking a few days to answer this, but your comment generated some discussions within the IESG, which are still ongoing. There was no IPR disclosure made directly on draft-ietf-dime-rfc3588bis-25.txt, and this is why the IETF LC does not mention any. This may be a miss in the case of 'bis' documents, and we are discussing in the IETF whether our procedures need not be modified to cover such cases. For the specific case I asked the IESG secretary to contact the submitters of the IPR disclosure on RFC 3588 and check with them whether they believe that the IPR also applies to draft-ietf-dime-rfc3588bis-25.txt. Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Stefan Winter > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:50 PM > To: 'IETF Discussion Mailing List' > Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-dime-rfc3588bis-25.txt> > (Diameter Base,Protocol) to Proposed Standard > > > Hi, > > I was surprised to see the line "No IPR declarations were > found that appear related to this I-D." in the message from > ietf-announce. Its predecessor, RFC3588, has a filed IPR > disclosure from Nokia, see > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/323/ > > A very long time ago, I looked into the patents in question, > and they seemed to be related to the T-Bit (Diameter message > command flag for "potentially re-transmitted message"). > > Page 35 in 3588bis still contains the T-Bit. As a naive > non-legalese person, I would think that the same disclosure > that applied to the T-Bit in 3588 also applies to the T-Bit > in 3588bis then. > > Greetings, > > Stefan Winter > > -- > Stefan WINTER > Ingenieur de Recherche > Fondation RESTENA - Réseau Téléinformatique de l'Education > Nationale et de la Recherche 6, rue Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi > L-1359 Luxembourg > > Tel: +352 424409 1 > Fax: +352 422473 > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf