Dave CROCKER wrote: > > On 9/14/2010 9:58 AM, Michael Dillon wrote: > > Even in Dublin and Maastricht there were > > "restaurant" districts nearby for those with vehicles. > > Virtually no attendee had a vehicle at either of those venues > (or many others.) > > And Dublin arguably had nothing "nearby" even for this elite set of folk. Having ones employer pay for a rental car is definitely convenient. I would not call it elite -- but most of the time a _very_ poor ROI. I participated 12 IETFs, had a vehicle during the IETF week on 6 of them (5x rental, 1x my very own car). Once I did the motel+rental vs. conference hotel trade-off, twice I paid personally for the rental. And on 6 of these IETFs I selfishly appended a vacation in that area. Personally, I liked Chicago Aug'98, Sheraton, weekend of the Air&Water show. Lots of places in walking distance, but low-budget accomodations might be scarce. I also liked L.A. (97-WestinBonaventure, 96-Omni), San Jose (96-Fairmont), Memphis (97-Peabody) and Stockholm (95-Grand) Dallas (95-Hyatt) was OK (after they opened Reunion Tower to informal IETFers). Montreal (Jul'96) was a nice city, the convention center was central, but the hotels somewhat scattered over the city (metro commute). My baggage got delayed for a day when connecting through Paris-CDG. Washington(Dec'97-Omni) was somewhat non-central. Munich (Aug'97-Arabella) was quite far out in a boring part of the city. The Hyatt conference hotel in Orlando (Dec'98) with no elevators was quick&convenient for dropping off & picking up stuff in your room, but it was very far out and nothing worth remembering in walking distance (I had a rental, though). The Social on Disney Treasure Island was fun. -Martin _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf