On 2010-09-14 13:46, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> I am not finding the net neutrality debate according to K-Street to be very
> useful or stimulating.
+1. No, +100.
>
> At the end of the day we have a limited amount of bandwidth available and we
> can help matters if people co-operate where it is in their interests.
> Whether or not we choose to do so does not in any way justify using the fact
> that I have limited choices in bandwidth provider to ensure that my options
> for content and/or VOIP telephone service are similarly limited.
>
>
> One area that might be fruitful for cooperation is in bulk time shifting of
> traffic. I am not so much talking about packet level prioritization here. I
> am thinking more of when I choose to back up my systems over the net.
RFC 3662 is aimed at this sort of application. Whether it has been
usefully deployed, I cannot say.
Brian
>
> The way I look at it, the net is a bit like the power grid in that there is
> an opportunity to reduce capacity requirements by shifting tasks from peak
> to off-peak. In particular I have several RAID arrays that I would like to
> back up with a total of something like 2Tb of data.
>
> At present there is no incentive for me to play nice other than the risk
> that my activities will clog my local net. In fact it is arguably in my
> interest to do at least some of my backups at peak time when I am not using
> the net since that encourages my ISP to upgrade their circuits. I don't
> actually do that but others might.
>
> It would be nice if there was some way that really high bandwidth apps that
> can tolerate long latency could negotiate a good time to do this sort of
> thing so as to minimize inconvenience.
>
>
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