The island that would probably best address most of the concerns brought up recently is Oahu. Large hotels on the neighbor islands tend to be resorts, where the idea is to keep you in the one hotel while not sightseeing. While there are several large hotels on Oahu that have meeting facilities, there is also the Hawaii Convention Center (http://www.hawaiiconvention.com/). Honolulu International Airport (HNL) has extensive direct connections to North America and Asia. The hotels in Waikiki are an easy taxi/bus/shuttle/rental car ride away. There are many restaurants and bars (of various repute) an easy walk from the Convention Center, as well as a major shopping center. There are several large hotels within 10 minutes walk. Hotel and airline prices will depend on the season. Spring and Fall would probably be the least expensive. The main problem would probably be finding a sponsor. Robin Uyeshiro Inst. for Astronomy Univ. of Hawaii -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Randall Gellens Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:21 PM To: Hadriel Kaplan Cc: IETF-Discussion list Subject: Re: Optimizing for what? Was Re: IETF Attendance by continent At 5:47 PM -0400 8/30/10, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: > The obvious answer is to pick a location that is equi-distant or > equally expensive for most people, and does not meet too often in > one contintent. There is such a place: Hawaii. It is fairly > mid-point between APAC and the Americas, and just slightly farther > from Europe (well, a lot farther if you can't fly direct, but > that's just due to airline routes, not > distance-between-two-points). > > Furthermore, it's not in any continent, and thus equal for all in > that regard. And it's a great tourist destination, and has plenty > of meeting facilities, restaurants, Internet bandwidth, and no > trains. So this seems to address everyone's concerns. > > Therefore, I propose we meet in Hawaii (and Kauai in particular) from now on. Why Kauai? You list detailed reasons why Hawaii is logical and solves for many of the problems, but you don't say why this island. > We can even rotate islands if people get bored. Well, there are extensive conference facilities on Oahu, the Big Island, Maui, and Kauai. I have no information as to if they would work for a group of our size and with our need for breakout rooms. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- The chance of forgetting something is directly proportional to.....to........uh.............. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf