At 4:23 PM -0400 8/27/10, Michael StJohns wrote:
I object to the way gateway/secondary cities are defined here and
specifically equating Maastricht with Minneapolis seems somewhat
stacking the deck.
I agree! They are totally different in ease of access and
availability of co-located hotel and meeting space.
What I'm looking for in a meeting location is a venue with both
formal and informal meeting spaces where I stand a good chance of
having a good technical discussion with random people at pretty
much any time of the day or night - that's my view of what has
contributed to the IETF's success over the years. (Although the
marathon session for the first draft of the Host Requirements
document was probably stretching it) That generally means a central
large hotel with attached conference space with access to non-hotel
food and drink in close proximity.
Yes, very well put. I attend an IETF for the work. I'll vacation on my own.
I'll add to this that, to me, ability to breathe is extremely
important. That means a smoke-free venue and some chance of finding
a smoke-free restaurant somewhere, plus air pollution that isn't too
severe.
Although personally I detest going to cold places, and would never do
so for vacation, I'm happy to go to an IETF in Minneapolis or
Vancouver in the winter, because it's not hard to get to, the venue
works well, and restaurants are smoke-free.
With respect to getting there - I'm finding the trend of getting
off an international plane in a gateway city and then getting onto
a train for 2-5 hours somewhat worrisome. I spent more time online
for Maastricht trying to research how to get to Maastricht that I
did reading IDs
Me, too, and I enlisted others to help, so it can't all be blamed on
me being stupid.
I don't know how to categorize Maastricht vs Minneapolis except to
say that air connectivity is better to Minneapolis and the meeting
venue has more of what I'm looking for in an IETF setup - and I
can't see any way to indicate that on your survey.
Yes.
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Randall Gellens
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