On Aug 29, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: > At 8:51 AM -0700 8/24/10, Dave CROCKER wrote: > >> Let me get this straight. You are going to go to China and you >> are /not/ going to do ANY site-seeing? If the answer is yes, I >> think you have deeper problems than the visa... > > I disagree. I'm not planning on any sight-seeing in China. I prefer > to do my sight-seeing in places where I can breathe. I have no idea > how common it is, but for personal travel (which I do a lot of) I > only go to places with smoke-free restaurants. More and more of the > world is available under this criteria. Neither am I. I might go sight-seeing in China some day, but not this week. > >> If you are doing some site-seeing, you are a tourist. Saying you >> are a tourist is, therefore, not lying. > > I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that it depends on the > primary purpose of the visit. If it is a personal trip that I > choose, then I am a tourist. If my company sends me or I am > attending a conference, then it is business. I think even that is an understatement. There's tourism < business < work, and if you do even a tiny bit of the bigger item, you need that kind of visa. Don't believe me? Try entering the US on a tourist visa, with the intention of doing mostly sightseeing, but also some selling IETF T-shirts on a street corner. > >> _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf