Re: [78attendees] WARNING !!! Re: Maastricht to Brussels-Nat-Aero, Sat 07:09

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On 8/26/10 6:01 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> Hi Henk,
> 
> This is the web site that was referred by the host web site for the fast
> speed train:
> 
> http://www.maastrichtbrusselexpress.nl/?id=26
> 
> And still has the wrong information about the timing (the site has not been
> updated since the IETF, despite the written complain done to the train
> management and their confirmation that was not updated).


Perhaps when you're done fixing the Belgian rail system you can fix the
government as well...

> Regards,
> Jordi
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Henk Uijterwaal <henk@xxxxxxxx>
>> Organization: RIPE NCC
>> Reply-To: <henk@xxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:08:30 +0200
>> To: <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [78attendees] WARNING !!! Re: Maastricht to Brussels-Nat-Aero,
>> Sat 07:09
>>
>> Hi Jordi,
>>
>>> In a previous discussion about this it was clear that was not the Dutch
>>> railway, but the Belgium one ... However, it was recommended to use the fast
>>> train from/to Brussels, as it was faster than to Amsterdam ... Clearly was
>>> not the case.
>>
>> It is a train starting in the Netherlands, the schedule published by the
>> NS on their website can then be considered authoritative.
>>
>>> The secretariat does an on site visit. It is simple to add one more point
>>> and question about the trains if this is going to be used by most of the
>>> participants (as it was in this case) and actually there is not a good
>>> international local airport.
>>
>> I don't remember if this question was asked or not, some of this was discussed
>> before I joined the IAOC.  But even if the question was asked, I don't
>> quite see how this would have solved your problem.  3 of the IAOC members
>> had travelled with Dutch trains beforehand and their experience was that
>> the information on the website was 100% accurate.
>>
>>> And you know, in this case was quite obvious. If you ask in the train
>>> station, as I did (unfortunately too late), they will tell you:
>>> "Oh NO, don't believe at all at the information on the web site, it has not
>>> been updated for ages !".
>>
>> This is strange, as both the NS (Dutch) and NMBS (Belgium) railways
>> recommend to check their websites to plan a trip.   And again, I have
>> yet to come across a case where the website different from the
>> intention of the railway company to run a train.
>>
>> Henk
>>
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