>>>>> "Bob" == Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@xxxxxxxxx> writes: Bob> A question for you. Should we select meeting venues to Bob> minimize the cost/time/etc. of all attendees or just, for Bob> example, w.g. chairs? Many people have suggested that the IAOC Bob> should be looking at overall attendee costs, but there might be Bob> a difference in what group we try to optimize. Bob> Personally, I lean toward more openness and would prefer to do Bob> optimize for all attendees. I think fairly strongly we should be optimizing for those doing active work in the IETF. Yes, that means that people who wish to get started in the IETF will face a higher bar in terms of meeting costs. In my mind that's OK, they will face a higher bar on a number of other fronts as well. We have a defined mission statement; it's my belief that the best way to accomplish that is to optimize for those who are doing the work while being sufficiently open that people who are willing to spend some effort can get involved. Put another way, we've already decided on our long-term success criteria: high quality specs. If you propose to change what we do in this space, you should make an argument about why what you're doing is the best option for advancing that long-term goal. I believe optimizing for the participants is the best long-term goal because it maximizes the probability that the people doing the work of the IETF are available to take advantage of the face-to-face discussions. It is important not to go so far as to prevent people from joining so that new work can filter into the system. --Sam _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf