Classic: IP over everything (dog optional) -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Nottingham Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:05 PM To: Fred Baker Cc: wgchairs@xxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: IETF Logo Wear That's going to be hard to fit on a t-shirt, Fred. *ducks* On 17/08/2010, at 8:34 AM, Fred Baker wrote: > IEN 111, August 1979. The preface reads: > > This document describes the Internet Protocol. There have been three > previous editions of this specification, and the present text draws > heavily from them. There have been many contributors to this document > both in terms of concepts and in terms of text. > > Jon Postel > Editor > > I suspect that, as editor, he would blanch a bit at finding anything there attributed specifically to *him*; he would have said - and on occasion did say - "I was there", but would go on to point out that there were many contributors and many contributions. That said, it is the first instance I can find of the Robustness Principle: > > The implementation of a protocol must be robust. Each implementation > must expect to interoperate with others created by different > individuals. While the goal of this specification is to be explicit > about the protocol there is the possibility of differing > interpretations. In general, an implementation should be conservative > in its sending behavior, and liberal in its receiving behavior. That > is, it should be careful to send well-formed datagrams, but should > accept any datagram that it can interpret (e.g., not object to > technical errors where the meaning is still clear). > > The comment, in various forms, is repeated in IENs 112, 123, 124, 128, and 129, and in RFCs 760, 761, 791, and 793. > > > On Aug 16, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Sean Turner wrote: > >> I like: >> >> "Be conservative in what you send and liberal in what you accept" >> Jon Postel >> >> I'm sure somebody who has been around longer than me can offer up a >> date ;) >> >> spt >> >> >> Fred Baker wrote: >>> There's no place like ::1 >>> On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Philip Nesser wrote: >>>> We obviously need an IETF branded one of these: >>>> http://www.cafepress.com/+theres_127001_infant_bodysuit,111188172 >>>> >>>> >>>> ---> Phil >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:26 AM, IETF Administrative Director <iad@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> All; >>>> >>>> At the request of the community the IAOC and the IETF Trust have >>>> approved the establishment of an online store from which the >>>> community can buy IETF logo wear. >>>> >>>> The store is at CafePress at: http://www.cafepress.com/ietf >>>> >>>> The store is maintained by the Internet Society and is expected to >>>> generate a very modest income, which will be used to offset IETF >>>> operational expenses. >>>> >>>> Suggestions for products or designs may be directed to Steve Conte, >>>> conte@xxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> Shouldn't everyone in your family have an IETF logo wear t-shirt? >>>> >>>> Ray Pelletier >>>> IAD >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ietf mailing list >>>> Ietf@xxxxxxxx >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ietf mailing list >>>> Ietf@xxxxxxxx >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ietf mailing list >>> Ietf@xxxxxxxx >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> _______________________________________________ >> Ietf mailing list >> Ietf@xxxxxxxx >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf