RE: Nomcom 2010-2011: Results of Random Selection

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From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks [tme@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Can't you repeat it yourself ? It is supposed to be a deterministic
process (once the inputs are obtained).

RFC 2777

A method such that public information will enable any person to verify
the randomness of the selection meets this criterion. This document
gives an example of such a method.
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Ah, yes, but if you re-read the announcement of the selection, it starts:

> From: ietf-announce-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@xxxxxxxx On Behalf Of NomCom Chair
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:56 PM
>
> Hi all,
>
> The following is the list of 10 nomcom volunteers selected randomly 
> from
> this list: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ann/nomcom/2395/

You have to read well down into the message to be told that the process is based (somehow) on RFC 3797.  It's a typical problem around here -- messages that should be stand-alone announcements aren't written carefully, and the authors forget how much background knowledge they are assuming.  (Would this announcement be comprehensible to someone who was unaware of RFC 3797/2777?)  A better start would be:

> The following is the list of 10 nomcom volunteers selected randomly by the process of RFC 3797 from this list [URL].  The input data to the RFC 3797 algorithm is detailed below.

Dale
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