On 7/12/2010 1:19 PM, Chris Elliott wrote:
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Chris Elliott <chelliot@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I will suggest that in Beijing
we may need to physically authenticate people
coming into the terminal room,
but I will leave the decision on whether and
how to do that up to the host in
Beijing.
Chris.
What does "physically authenticate people" mean here?
Show that they
have a badge (common and meets the stated requirement of
"keep the
IETF network for IETF attendees")? Or write down the
name? Or write
down the name and the network port for the cable they
pick up?
The differences here are not subtle, and I don't think
this question really
does belong with the hosts in Beijing. They can present
requirements
to the IETF, but it is up to us to decide how to meet
them. If their choice
in meeting the requirement "keep the IETF network for
IETF attendees"
turns into "Track the network usage on a per attendee
basis", the attendees
really need to know whether that is because that was the
real requirement
all along or because the IETF management failed to
provide a realistic
alternative that met the stated goal.
Our requirement in Beijing is to meet the government
restriction that only attendees of the meeting can access the
Internet through our external link.
There are no requirements for, and we will certainly not be
doing, any monitoring of users. Period.
You wont have to - the Chinese Government and several others will
monitor that for you. You dont believe me - ask the Bureau of State
Security...
I do not know the layout of the Beijing IETF meeting space.
Therefore, I do not know the best approach to securing wired
connections in the terminal room and elsewhere. I am suggesting,
to be more explicit, that a guard at the door of the terminal
room checking that everyone simply has an IETF badge, as we have
done in many previous meetings, may be sufficient for Beijing as
well, and the easiest solution for all.
Yeah I bet.
Todd
And we are working hand-in-hand with the Beijing folks first
in Maastricht and then Beijing to refine the requirements and
the implementation. Four or five of the folks that will be the
core of the NOC team in Beijing are members of the NOC team in
Maastricht and will be working with us throughout the meeting.
Some of them will be staffing the help desk alongside the RIPE
folks, so come by and introduce yourselves.
Our roles will reverse in Beijing as they will be responsible
for the network and we will be there to help.
We are well aware of the concerns of IETF attendees around
privacy. We share these concerns.
Chris.
best regards,
Ted Hardie
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