Iljitsch: >> This is useful, but not quite what I was asking. Clearly, the above >> means that the logs exist during the meeting, while we are at the host >> venue. I think it is safe to say that under some legal regimes, a >> government could require the delivery of such existing logs to them. > > I would very much appreciate assurances that such logging will not occur, > and that there will be no "live" feed of such information to third parties, > such as government or law enforcement. > > A week's worth of correlation between my MAC address and the IP addresses > that I exchange encrypted information with is not something I think any > government needs to have. > > Of course if a government has cause to believe that a given user is > misbehaving they still have the option to talk to the NOC staff and > have them obtain information about this user. As I said in my reply to Andrew, no matter where a meeting is held, we are subject to the laws of that location. Nothing new there. We have received no requests for the kind of "live" feeds that you suggest. I'm quite sure that the NOC Team and the IAOC would push back is such a request were made. Again, the use of anonymous registration IDs is available to you and anyone that wants one. If you are concerned about the logs, then you should use one. Russ _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf