Anyone can design a system for use by highly motivated geniuses. It takes a lot more skill to build something that can be used by people whose primary motivation is not to make 'your stuff' work. The issue Ned raises is very typical of what most engineers spend 80% of their time on - fixing stupid issues that need never have existed if someone else had done their job a little better or described what they are doing more accurately. The only people who are going to have labs set up to test the full range of IPv6 interop issues are people whose primary focus is IPv6 interop. Ergo anyone who wants the typical application engineer to develop IPv6 compatible code had better work out how to completely encapsulate all those issues at the platform level. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Dave CROCKER <dhc2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 6/15/2010 7:30 PM, Fred Baker wrote: >> >> Yes, all we need is application engineers with a network clue. They seem >> to be hard to come by. > > > Every layer is clue-challenged, when it comes to staffing. > > Possibly at other times, too. > > d/ > -- > > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > -- Website: http://hallambaker.com/ _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf