RE: The point is to change it: Was: IPv4 depletion makes CNN

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Nice to hear "just worked" in the context of IPv6. Did your router give you just an IPv6 address, or also an IPv4 address?  If both, does the IPv6 address ever get anywhere on the Internet, or is it always NATted?

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From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Douglas Otis
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:22 AM
To: ietf@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: The point is to change it: Was: IPv4 depletion makes CNN

On 6/1/10 9:57 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
> On 30/05/2010 23:52, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote :
>    
>> People are not going to use IPv6 if it takes the slightest effort on
>> their part. People are not going to switch their home networks over to
>> IPv6 if it means a single device on the network is going to stop
>> working. In my case it would cost me $4K to upgrade my 48" plotter to
>> an IPv6 capable system. No way is that going to happen till there are
>> $50 IPv6 plotters on EBay.
>>      
> Sorry, but that's a red herring.
> You're speaking about IPv4 decommissioning, not IPv6 implementation.
> Implementing IPv6 will do nothing to your local plotter. Your computer
> will keep addressing IPv4 to it.
> Nothing stops you from always running dual stack at home, with your IPv4
> behind your NAT/PAT.
>
> Have you tried implementing IPv6 at home?
>    
By accident when solving a network drop-out problem within a congested 
wireless environment, installing an airport extreme router also offered 
IPv6 over an IPv4 ISP.  Everything just worked.
When later changing providers, the cable modem needed extensive tweaking 
before everything worked, which then lowered throughput by about 35%.  
To overcome this, several commodity routers were tried, but they were 
unable run DHCP once the modem's NAT was disabled.   Double NATs cause 
additional breakage.  Once again, the airport extreme just worked.  This 
was learning the hard way it seems.

Unless one is careful, one might find themselves using IPv6 without 
their knowledge, both globally and locally.  Capturing local traffic 
showed several applications already making use of the local IPv6 address 
space.   And I'd even wager that an IPv4 plotter would work,  since an 
HP IPv4 printer does.

-Doug
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