<IAOC Hat Off> IMHO, the issue is not that one does not get the flavor of the IETF by only attending for a day. I would offer it is that prospective nomcom members would miss out on the experiences of (1) formal community feedback from scheduled meetings during the IETF meetings and (2) informal community feedback from hallway, bar, and references (I don't know her, but he does - go talk to him). These are, again IMHO, critical experiences for prospective and nominated nomcom members to have. That does not happen in a day or two of meetings. Therefore, I support the IESG position. <IAOC Hat On> Whatever the community wants... On May 6, 2010, at 6:07 PM, The IESG wrote: > The IESG is considering the following Statement on the Day Pass > Experiment. The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks on > a policy statement, and the IESG actively solicits comments on this > action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@xxxxxxxx mailing > lists by 2010-05-20. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to > iesg@xxxxxxxx instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of > the Subject line to allow automated sorting. > > = = = = = = = = > > RFC 3777 requires that voting members of the nominating committee > (NomCom) be selected from volunteers that have attended at least three > of the last five IETF meetings. The IAOC is conducting a day pass > experiment, making it necessary to augment the NomCom eligibility rules > to address IETF participants that make use of a day pass. An update to > RFC 3777 to will be needed to address this situation if at the end of > the experiment the IAOC decides to make day passes a regular meeting > registration alternative; however, a BCP update for an experiment is > overkill. > > The IESG observes that attending a single day of the IETF meeting is not > sufficient for a new participant to learn the culture of the IETF or the > qualities that would make an effective IETF leader. Further, ongoing > exposure to the IETF standards process is necessary to appreciate the > significance and importance of cross-area review. > > The eligibility requirements of volunteers for NomCom voting member > positions are provided in RFC 3777, which includes: > > 14. Members of the IETF community must have attended at least 3 of > the last 5 IETF meetings in order to volunteer. > > In the context of the day pass experiment, this is interpreted to mean: > > 14. IETF participants must have attended at least 3 of the last 5 > IETF meetings in order to volunteer, and that use of a day pass > does not count as IETF meeting attendance. > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf