>>> Jorge Amodio wrote: >>> Hard to believe but Morse is still in use and required >>> for certain classes of radio operators. >> Michel Py wrote: >> For good reasons; in difficult conditions, Morse still delivers >> the message when the voice has long stopped being recognizable. >> Morse would be like ASCII: definitely not the prettiest solution, >> but if something still works it would be it. > Stewart Bryant wrote: > Sure, but modern digital modes such as WSTJ will beat Morse at SNR. Maybe this actually is a useful comparison; on paper, yes. But you miss the point. If your email and telephone are working, you don't need the ham radio. Now, when you are in a disaster zone with no infrastructure, it's a different ballgame. The only power you have is the one you produce by pedaling in the generator while transmitting. It is 110F with 100% humidity, a tree canopy 200ft high and mosquitoes bigger than some birds. The only reason you have a radio in the first place is because you jumped out of the plane with it on your back. Obviously the chute opened, or else you would not be transmitting. Before you set up camp you had to cross a river with it. The guy you're trying to talk to has no power either; his antenna is a piece of barb wire. Where's your WSTJ gear? Same applies to document formats. You're in the middle of nowhere with a 14.4 modem (in good days). What do you want to read? The 50MB {put.fancy.doc.format.in.here} or the ASCII version? Again I support moving away from ASCII, but here has to be a fallback to it. Michel. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf