Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPRrules)

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John-Luc Bakker wrote:

Dear all,

With regard to the recent discussion regarding RIM's recent IPR
disclosures, I understand the community's concerns regarding the
timeliness of the disclosure.  As employees of companies we are bound by
confidentiality obligations and, in addition, cannot always control our
company's internal processes.  The community's concerns have been
brought to the attention of my employer and they are in the process of
evaluating the concerns.  My company has asked for your patience while
they take the time to evaluate the concerns and determine if there is an
appropriate course of action in this matter to alleviate the concerns of
the community.

Your understanding is appreciated.
John-Luc, I would like to understand if RIM's recent IPR disclosures affect general use of application/3gpp-ims+xml, or only its specific use as described in draft-bakker-sipping-3gpp-ims-xml-body-handling.

Thank you,
Alexey

P.S. I understand that my question might be naive or stupid, but I have no doubts people will tell me if it is.

Kind regards,

	John-Luc

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ned+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 12:40 PM
To: John C Klensin
Cc: Cullen Jennings; IETF-Discussion list
Subject: Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores
IETF IPRrules)

FWIW, I agree with Brian.  Pulling this (waiting until the IESG
approves and only then filing the disclosure) on a media type
registration seems particularly egregious but is, in any event,
exactly the type of situation the IPR rules are intended to
prevent.  Like him, I believe that the IESG can recind its
action on this basis without having to go through the procedural
clutter of an appeal.  In addition, if an appeal were really
necessary, nothing prevents one or more of the IESG members who
believe that they would have acted differently had the
disclosure occurred on a timely basis from filing it.

+1

I'll also note that nothing prevents then from registrering this in the
media
type vnd. tree.

				Ned
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