Martin J. Dürst a écrit :
My understanding is that these days, most WG and BOF meetings have
somebody watching jabber and bringing up comments from there to the
mic. Also, jabber scribing seems to be quite popular, complementing
the audio channel (which this time, as reported elsewhere, was
excellent).
What about jabber support (both scribing and picking up
questions/comments) for the plenary? Was this just never considered,
or has it been considered and rejected?
Well I have seen once (San Diego was that?) during the Plenary a
professional ("court") scriber on jabber, with a special keyboard, I was
impressed: speed, precision, efficiency.
Live jabber scribing, if done well, is extremely useful not only for
remote attendees but even for people in the physical room: names of
speakers can be seen (I heard this IETF has badge readers to display
names - but I doubt it's fast enough, I believe it slow), foreign
speakers read and understand better what's being said on mike, etc.
Live jabber scribing also maintains people (who cared to join the jabber
room) more concentrated on the meeting itself, while still watching the
laptop screen.
Two or three virtual rooms? Usually there's only one virtual room
reserved for a meeting on jabber; however, there are at least two
different activities on jabber: (1) scribing and (2) discussing about
the ongoing meeting. Sometimes there is (3) people specifically ask to
relay messages on the mike.
For the plenary, I have seen sometimes people setting up an additional
chat room, because the jabber room was too crowded and not fast enough
for some fast and very humourous remarks.
I think also that, in general, for IETF, we may need a code of
practice/conduct/rules for behaving on jabber rooms. There are some
established practices I have seen. E.g. recently I've seen a scribe
asking jabber participants to prefix their comment with <mic> if they
want it relayed on mike, which I find very useful. I for myself try to
follow a common practice when jabber scribing: mark slide advance and
title, scribe only the comments not the presentation, use name acronyms
like AP for Alexandru Petrescu, etc.
Some times the practice is different.
Different people use different practice. When the same practice is
used, scribing and mike relaying is easier. For example, last time
scribing a fellow scriber helped me with the names following my way of
abbreviating names, which I found extremeley useful.
Some people don't consider useful the way I scribe, because I tend to
scribe every word being said; and some Chairs prefer to have already the
synthesis of the message exchange done on the log - it's easier for them
when building the "official" minutes. I.e. I scribe "AP: bit 1 must be
0; BR: no, bit 0 must be 1", whereas the minutes builder prefers to see
something like "AP and BR discussed about bits and values".
Some other people like the detailed jabber logs.
I never knew exactly what to do as jabber scribe, I just follow instinct.
But I believe these could be discussed in order to have a more efficient
jabber chat use - not only for Plenary, but for all meetings.
I love audio, I love jabber - without it my attendance would be reduced
to 0.
Alex
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