--On Tuesday, 10 November, 2009 09:59 -0800 Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >... > <rant> I'm soooo tired of this line of argumentation. Sunday > is part of the (religious as well as secular) weekend for some > cultures, too. We've dealt with (or ignored) this reality for > decades. If we're going to trample on sensitivities, we may > as well be equal-opportunity about it. </rant> >... Randy, I'm never one to advocate making decisions based on perceived political correctness or real or imaginary sensitivities, so let me explain. First of all, just based on numbers of people affected, I believe that the argument against wiping out a pair of adjacent weekends is much more compelling than any religious or cultural argument. That said, I have never heard of people coming in only on Monday because of (religious or secular) constraints with Sunday. I have seen people cut out Friday morning, or even earlier, because of such constraints. So the issue is real. That doesn't mean that we should decide not to do Friday (or Saturday, or Sunday, or Monday) sessions because of those people. It does suggest that we should consider the topic when we are making choices. My much greater concern, as I tried to make clear, is where we draw the line about expanding meetings. Maybe the right answer is that we stop after the Thursday evening plenary. Maybe before noon on Friday. Maybe the end of the day Friday. Maybe we should be expanding into the following week. Maybe the ITU is right and SG meetings lasting two or three weeks are reasonable. But, sooner or later, we need to stop and start prioritizing. And I want to try to make sure that any "keep people around longer" plan considers the alternate hypothesis that maybe we have trying to hold more hours or days of meetings than we can really sustain. john _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf