Re: IAB/IAOC/IETF Trust Minutes

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Sorry for top-post.

in a purely personal capacity, having spent many MANY hours jabber scribing in a number of WG (IPFIX, DNSext/DNSop/SIDR, plenary):

Its a thankless (mostly) task.

its exhausting for more than 30min without a break.

its impossible to participate in a WG discussion an jabber scribe. therefore to scribe is to take yourself out of the loop (tm) in the substance of the discussion.

Chairs oftentimes fail to recognize the timliness of jabber-scribe forced interventions into the room. You can't scribe and queue at the microphone.

There are disputes in WG about what is, or is not, a proper record of the session and I don't think its fair to put a jabber scribe in the position of possibly being held 'on the record' for what they scribe.

Having said which, as a best-effort assistance, and as a vehicle for rapid noting the flow of activity in a group, I'm all for it.

-George

On 28/10/2009, at 3:01 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:



Dave CROCKER wrote:


SM wrote:
Posting documents in a format that involves text files with very
long lines that require horizontal scrolling with many systems
is not a favor to the community or an aid to ready
comprehensibility.

wraping long lines is not a new technology


A stray thought:

While it is always better to have an explicitly appointed scribe, I
wonder whether a collaborative approach might help in the situations
lacking this.

they could simply be recorded, post-production is prohibitively
expensive for a time and workflow perspective but raw recording have
some utility if you are willing to spend the cycles to reconstruct
events from them.

I'm thinking that a jabber session for a meeting would permit all
participants to post their comments of what is happening as the meeting progresses. This would not be a public session; its sole purpose would be to make an archive of notes that could then be lightly massaged into
minutes.

If everyone in the meeting is recruited to assist, I suspect the result
could be reasonably comprehensive.

d/
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