On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 15:31 -0700, Dave CROCKER wrote: > > Cullen Jennings wrote: > > I > > carefully stayed away from social policy issues > > >> 1) What is political speech in China? > ... > >> 2) Are there any special rules about publishing and broadcasting? I > ... > >> 5) When discussing what I think of as technical issues, many > >> participants regularly treat Taiwan and PRC as two different countries > ... > >> Could any discussions like > >> this be viewed as political speech? What are the rules on this? > > > This is your version of staying away from social policy? > > If it is, I suspect that what is first needed are lessons in the nature of > social and political policy. > > I suspect you -- and most of the rest of us -- can't give a definitive answer to > these questions for any other venue the IETF has ever met in. As a small > example, I doubt many of us have a meaningful clue about the detailed impact of > the US's Patriot Act as it changed basic freedoms's for citizens, nevermind > non-citizens. > > Really, Cullen, it's difficult to overemphasize just how basic a mistake it is > for us to pursue your questions. I don't think it's helpful for you to repeatedly try to shut down attempts to get answers to questions that many people on the list have repeatedly said that they think are relevant and important. I don't think that Cullen has asked for opinions from anyone on whether the rules in China are right or wrong - that would certainly be discussing social policy. What he has asked for is discussion of how they will impact the normal functioning of an IETF meeting, and I for one agree that the answers are important in that current context. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf