On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 07:04:43PM +0200, Patrick Suger wrote: > > I never thought it could be understood differently: anything different would > be rude for ISOC. So, what you personnalité want is to be sure that whatever > off topic you may want to discuss it will be permitted by the local law? > This sounds like invading foreign countries and saying, "hey! guys, I am the > IETF, I am your law now.". In fact you may genuinely think "youcann" ... I don't think anyone is actually saying this. What folks are in fact saying is that out of _respect_ of Chinese local law, which apparently makes illegal many things which normally would be discussed at IETF metings, maybe it wouldn't be a good idea to hold an IETF meeting in China. The counterargument seems to be, naaah, don't worry, even though there is a contract that says these sorts of things aren't allowed, and if they happen a hotel employee can shut down the entire meeting --- they won't be enforced and don't worry your pretty little heads about such things. So if China wants to make various things illegal to discuss, that's fine. We should respect that. It doesn't mean that we should hold an IETF meeting there, though. - Ted _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf