On Fri, October 2, 2009 3:55 pm, Noel Chiappa wrote: > It's not clear that (self-)censorship is going to be the worst problem > from > an IETF in the PRC. One of the things I would be most concerned about is > the > PRC government using this meeting for propoganda purposes (either > internal, > or external), as happened with the Olympics. Yes, we are very small fry > indeed compared to the IOC, but I'm not interested in lending the IETF's > good > name to any government. Let's be real. Were we offended when, during the Adelaide South Australia meeting, the local government made sure the newspapers knew about us and granted Adelaide some prestige for being involved? Nope. The government of South Australia isn't scary and isn't actively involved in censoring, blocking, and obfuscating the Internet. In fact, the local government rep spoke at our plenary, and asked as many of us as possible to consider moving to Adelaide permanently. No worries, mate! Do find the PRC government somewhat more threatening than the government of South Australia? If so, why, and what should we do about it if anything? Constructive engagement and avoidance are both valid options that have been brought into this debate. The current hosting contact terms have led me to favor the latter, but both positions have merit if we can manage the risks. -- Dean _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf