Re: Retention of blue sheets

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Going even further, I would like to see the list of attendees for each
working group made visible online, so those of us who aren't there can
determine who was there.  I realize that might well be a burden, of course.

Eliot

On 7/30/09 4:24 PM, Eliot Lear wrote:
> Unless the sobpeonas pose a substantial burden to the secretariat, I
> would prefer that we do not throw away history.  These are public
> meetings, after all.
>
> Eliot
>
> On 7/30/09 4:03 PM, Samuel Weiler wrote:
>   
>> [Sorry for the possible duplicate; my posting from last night hasn't
>> appeared yet.]
>>
>> During the plenary yesterday, it came out that the IETF has retained
>> the working group attendance sheets ("blue sheets") from previous
>> meetings, and those are occasionally the subject of subpoenas.
>>
>> In the interest of minimizing IETF overhead and reducing legal risks
>> to individual participants, I'd like to see those old records
>> destroyed.  And, though there appeared to be a variety of opinions, it
>> sounded like I wasn't alone in this.
>>
>> The reason typically given for the attendance lists is planning
>> meeting room capacity.  That purpose could easily be accomplished with
>> a headcount or by counting the number of names on the attendee list
>> then immediately destroying the list.  Most of us aren't
>> mathematicians by training: we should be able to count the number of
>> people in the room.
>>
>> What harms would come from destroying those old records and/or not
>> collecting such details in the future?  And how widespread is the
>> support for destroying them?
>>
>> -- Sam
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