> From: Richard Stallman <rms@xxxxxxx> > Generally speaking, standards are useful, because they enable people to > converge what they are doing. But that ceases to be true when the use of > the standard is patented. It is better to have no standard than have a > standard that invites people into danger. But for any standard, there might be a 'submarine' patent (i.e. one not declared to the IETF, which will be sprung once use of the standard is widespread). That standard will have "invite[d] people into danger". Or if I don't like a particular proposed standard, I can say 'hey, I have this patent, and I claim it applies'. (Hey, it's going to take a patent lawyer - or, more formally, a legal proceeding - to _guarantee_ that that threat is smoke, right?) if we have a strict rule about patents, all we've done is created a mechanism which will allow anyone to torpedo a standard they don't like. So what's the answer - no standards at all? Of course not, we take a calculated risk, based on an intuitive cost-benefit analysis, and do the standards. This has to be on a case-by-case basis, really; every situation is a little different. (And sometimes the benefits of an encumbered standard are actually worth the costs. Case in point, the standards which used RSA public-private keysystems.) Noel _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf