Re: Internet Society joins Liberty Alliance Management Board: Why?

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Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
     Someone could, for example, come up
with the question why ISOC did not join the MIT Kerberos Consortium (see
http://www.kerberos.org/), as Kerberos is a technology developed within the
IETF, or to support technologies like OpenID, OAuth, etc. that are closer to
the Internet deployment.
I am sure your team had a lot of conversations with the IAB on what
direction would be better for the Internet


Folks,

What is particularly interesting to me, about this line of comment, is not whether the relevant IETF-based technologies are superior or whether an ISOC alliance with an industry Alliance was the right thing to do. There can -- and probably should -- be focussed debate about such questions. But only within a larger context that I'd like to raise:

Should there be more or different ISOC/IETF dialogue, when ISOC is pursuing a strategic topic that is relevant to the IETF?

The IETF/ISOC relationship has changed dramatically, in recent years, primarily in terms of ISOC involvement in IETF management and funding. What I do not recall seeing is whether there should be changes in the involvement of the IETF in ISOC activities.[1]

An easy example is exactly the sort of involvement being implied by the current thread: When ISOC is choosing to take a strategic action, should it seek public discussion within the IETF?

Public discussion is messy and IETF-wide consensus is virtually impossible to obtain for any interesting topic. So I'm not at all suggesting that ISOC depend upon gaining that from the IETF. Still, public discussion can surface useful information and opinion.

Let me stress: I don't intend this as criticism. As things change, we gain insight. The exchange surfaced an issue that struck me as interesting and potentially useful, and worth pursuing among the ISOC and IETF communities.

d/


[1]  Side note:  The list of ISOC Board of Trustees at:

     <http://www.isoc.org/isoc/general/trustees/board.php>

     does not indicate the constituency or selection mechanism that chose
     particular Trustees; it would be helpful to see that included in the list,
     to understand whether they are ex officio, elected by from a region, or the
     like.
--

  Dave Crocker
  Brandenburg InternetWorking
  bbiw.net
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