>>>>> "PHB" == Hallam-Baker, Phillip <pbaker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: PHB> The proposal that I made then was that when a working group is PHB> started, it specify the IPR criteria under which it is PHB> chartered. In some cases it makes perfect sense to charter a PHB> group that will be using encumbered technology. In other cases PHB> the entire purpose of the group requires that any technology be PHB> open and unencumbered. I didn't know you had proposed this. It's brilliant. It means that we have decided things up-front. +1 _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf