>>>>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:39:53 +0200, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@xxxxxxxxx> said: JA> I agree that there are problematic case, but I believe I hope everyone JA> realizes this is only the case if the RFC in question has JA> code. Otherwise it really does not matter. Only some RFCs have code. Actually, many RFCs have code. XML, XML schemas, MIBs, etc are all pseudo-code files that need to be redistributed and often contain syntax errors (and thus need to be modified before they're usable; some relevant copyrights (like IANA's MIB copyright [1]) don't let you modify the potentially broken files and redistribute them. Fortunately, getting IANA to fix problems and publish a fixed copy of the MIB probably isn't a problem. Now, lets get back to whether code can be extracted. Interestingly RFC5378 (which affects only all documents after it) says that: The IETF Trust may establish different policies for granting sublicenses with respect to different types of Contributions and content within Contributions (such as executable code versus descriptive text or references to third-party materials). The IETF Trust's policies concerning the granting of sublicenses to make derivative works will be guided by RFC [RFC5377]. So, I couldn't find a statement that says automatic sublicenses will be given out for code related items. It only says that the policies for creating those sublicenses ***will*** be guided by 5377 (which says about the right thing: you can modify code extracts). IE, is it actually possible to use code from RFCs beyond 5378? I think each company/organization/author would need to personally ask the IETF trust for a sublicense? Footnotes: [1] http://www.ietf.org/copyrights/ianamib.html -- Wes Hardaker Sparta, Inc. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf