At Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:20:14 -0500 (EST), Dean Anderson wrote: > ... And as> programmer and developer, I will probably have some non-patented> alternatives to present.>> --Dean Dean,that's really laudable progress, leading back to technical discussionof possible alternative solutions.Please indeed prepare such I-D as soon as feasible. I heartly invite other interested parties as well to submit theirproposals to the TLS WG, and I hereby explicitely would like toaddress those many folks that newly started being interested inIETF work in general and further development and application ofTLS in particular. In order to make life easier for all participants,I suggest to start with streamlined draft names likedraft-<author>-tlz-authz-<xxx>-00 . The WG should be able to perform an unprejudized discussionof alternative proposals before it comes to determine consensuswhether there is enough interest and support to warrant adopting'TLS Authorization' as a new work item, and if so, whichdraft(s) to base the WG project on. I personally promise to review sound draft proposals in timebefore such WG decision (perhaps not initial -00 versions,only enough elaborate refined versions). One immediate question to the group and the respective author: Draft-housley-tls-authz-extns only defines a framework, andaccording to the past exegesis of the imprecise IPR statementsunder discussion, only the application of that framework tospecific use cases might be encumbered by these claims.However, the recent I-D, draft-keromytis-tls-authz-keynote-01,together with a supporting sibling document,draft-keromytis-keynote-x509-01 (both still rough and lackingimportant details), defines a concrete instantiation of thatframework.In how far is that instantiation encumbered by these IPR claims?Is it burdened with other patent claims? Kind regards, Alfred Hönes. -- +------------------------+--------------------------------------------+| TR-Sys Alfred Hoenes | Alfred Hoenes Dipl.-Math., Dipl.-Phys. || Gerlinger Strasse 12 | Phone: (+49)7156/9635-0, Fax: -18 || D-71254 Ditzingen | E-Mail: ah@xxxxxxxxx |+------------------------+--------------------------------------------+ _______________________________________________Ietf mailing listIetf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf