Please Sir, I do not believe that using patented code or components within TLS Authorization protocols or Standards is at all a good idea, and I strongly disapprove of the proposal for a standard for TLS by RedPhone that would use such patents. I believe that approval of such a standard could potentially hold to ransom developers of Free/Open Software and force users and developers alike into using proprietory, closed and potentially costly solutions where such standards were in use. I also believe that at a time when the technologically rich nations are reaching out to the 3rd world and nations under the yolk of oppression with promises of the potential of technology and the use of the internet that the burdon of patented standards and protocols will not encourage the use of such. The effects of this may potentially threaten the security of those who would seek to be protected by, or given voice, by such standards. I also believe that such a patent encumbered standard would be against the spirit of the World Wide Web and the internet in general. -- D. Combs. UK. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf