> http://www.fsf.org/news/reoppose-tls-authz-standard > > While I have a lot of sympathy for the cause, I have very little > sympathy for the methods. > Rendering a mailing list that might be useful for actually resolving > the issue inoperative by a "campaign" is idiotic. > Somebody from I* (the IETF chair may not be the right person this > time) should call them and explain that this is not the way to win > friends and impress people. > > Gruesse, Carsten > > PS: kill-filing messages CCed to campaigns@xxxxxxxx might help a bit. > I don't know if the procedures allow to do this at the mailing list > level. Dear Carsten: (And others who feel upset at the recent development) As someone who's been a (mostly silent, but frequently reading) member of this mailing list, I can understand your concern. However, can you propose a better way for them to contact members of the IETF? ... do you propose that they attend our next in-person meeting? It's infeasible for most people. This mailing list was, if I am not mistaken, intended to further discussion among peers for the betterment of the protocols and standards of the internet. Their comments, while they are many, reflect an opinion on how it can be made better: or at least, how it can be prevented from becoming worse. I agree with their opinion, and as such I included my own statement of discontent with the possibility of the draft becoming a standard... I have my own reasons, which I stated, but I agree with the idea... and I feel that their having posted in this place is appropriate as well. If you can think of a better place for them to post their ideas directly to the task force, I'm sure everyone would be glad to hear it... but for most people (myself included) who cannot come to the twice yearly in-person meetings, this mailing list is the best most people will likely ever get. Sincerely, Alex Loret de Mola Lead Software Engineer, iScan Services _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf