We depend on organizations like the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) and the Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG) to evaluate new proposals for standards and make sure that they are not encumbered by patents or any other sort of restriction that would prevent free software users and programmers from participating in the world they define. Despite claims that RedPhone has offered a license for implementation of this protocol, users of this protocol would still be threatened by the patent. The IETF should continue to oppose this standard until RedPhone provides a royalty-free license for all users. Thank you, Gary _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf