Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > Ted, > > On 2009-01-23 10:30, Theodore Tso wrote: > ... >> Ultimately, I suspect the list of contributors is a good and polite >> thing to do out of courtesy, but it's not all that useful from an IPR >> point of view. Even if there was code that you wanted to use from a >> pre-RFC5378 text, you wouldn't need or want to contact *all* the >> contributors; you would want to know who contributed the portion of >> the RFC containing the code that you wanted to use in an >> implementation (either proprietary or open source). > > To be clear about the case of code: the right to use code was already > granted under the old rules; it's the right to use non-code text in > non-IETF derivative works that is made possible by the new rules. > > RFC3978 and RFC3667 include: > "(E) to extract, copy, publish, display, distribute, modify and > incorporate into other works, for any purpose (and not limited > to use within the IETF Standards Process) any executable code > or code fragments that are included in any IETF Document..." Those right are not granted to "third parties", only to the ISOC/IETF. The section before the paragraph you quote from RFC 3978 begins with: a. To the extent that a Contribution or any portion thereof is protected by copyright and other rights of authorship, the Contributor, and each named co-Contributor, and the organization he or she represents or is sponsored by (if any) grant a perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, royalty-free, world-wide right and license to the ISOC and the IETF under all intellectual -------------------------------- property rights in the Contribution: So I disagree that the right to use code was already granted under RFC 3978. In fact, I believe this was one of the main flaws with RFC 3978. /Simon _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf