More to the point, the question at hand was to what happens to mailing list discussions (or face to face discussions) which took place *before* RFC 5378 was published. John's observation was that it doesn't matter when the I-D or RFC is published, even if it is published *after* RFC 5378, if it contains text that was derived *before* RFC 5378, regardless of whether it came from an RFC, I-D, mailing list discussion, or face-to-face discussion, the RFC 5378 rights that a Contributor might provide wouldn't exist. - Ted _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf