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> -----Original
Message----- > From: John C Klensin [mailto:john-ietf@xxxxxxx] > Sent: Saturday, January
10, 2009 4:32 PM > To:
lrosen@xxxxxxxxxxxx; 'IETF Discussion' > Subject: Re: [Trustees]
ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees inviteyour > reviewand comments on a
proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378Problem > > > --On Saturday, January
10, 2009 22:48 +0000 lrosen@xxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > > FWIW, I am serving
pro bono in the public interest, and I hope > > everyone else here
would also. /Larry > > And you have no
clients, even clients for whom you are working pro > bono, who have a vested
position in the outcome of these discussions? > > That is certainly not
consistent with things you have said in the > past. My
sympathies on your loss of business relationships. > > john > Why are such emails tolerated on IETF's discussion list? I have participated on IETF lists for several years now, trying
hard to respect IETF's culture and norms for civil communication. I learned
early on that everyone in IETF perceives his or her role as an individual
serving in the best interests of the technologies we jointly need. While none
of us can fully leave our hats at the door, we are expected to represent what
is best for the Internet. As an attorney, it would be improper for me to come here
secretly representing the interests of a particular client, and I suppose John
Klensin's question was meant to determine if I was acting unethically in that
respect when I stated (and signed) my opinions on here. If so, his then making
snide public comments about me or my clients (or supposed "loss of
business relationships") on the list is an implication of either ethical
improprieties or poor business acumen. I don't deserve either. What is doubly irritating is that an engineer, who himself expresses
his own lawyerly opinions in the public interest when participating in the IPR
WG, refuses to believe that an attorney can have equally pure motives when he
expresses his opinions on the same topics. Is that anti-lawyer bigotry?
Unfortunately, that isn't a constitutionally protected class, just something
that IETF itself ought not to tolerate on its public lists. I believe I deserve an apology from John, although that may
be too much for a lawyer to ask. /Larry P.S. I am an also an elected member of the Apache Software
Foundation. I hope nobody here assumes that my opinions here reflect the
official opinions of that organization either, although I do believe that many individual
members of ASF share at least some of my views. Lawrence Rosen Rosenlaw & Einschlag, a technology law firm (www.rosenlaw.com) 3001 King Ranch Road, Ukiah, CA 95482 707-485-1242 * cell: 707-478-8932 * fax: 707-485-1243 Skype: LawrenceRosen Author of "Open Source Licensing: Software Freedom and
Intellectual Property Law" (Prentice Hall 2004) |
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