Doug Ewell skrev:> Magnus Westerlund <magnus dot westerlund at ericsson dot com> wrote:> >> I think any one of us would be might irritated to learn that the >> suddenly started receive spam in large quantities because someone >> published their address in example in an internet draft or RFC.> > and later:> >> And I would be kind of annoyed if anyone of you decided to publish one >> of my private addresses without my permission. That is why SPAM was >> listed as an example.> > Is that the concern, that people will start receiving spam to their > e-mail addresses, or excessive or inappropriate hits on their Web site, > unexpectedly or without their permission, because these addresses were > used in an RFC or I-D unexpectedly or without their permission? From my point of view this is one of many reasons why care needs to be taken with what one puts into examples. Clearly a minor issue, more about etiquette than anything else. Configuration files are clearly one of the major issues where inclusion of someones NTP sever in something that accidentally gets deployed can amount to a DDoS.
> I think that is a completely different use case, and moral problem, from > using one's own e-mail address or URL in a document, or using well-known > addresses such as <Postel@xxxxxxx> that have already appeared in > well-known and heavily cited RFCs (John's use case that launched the > present debate).
Agreed. And that was not really what the discusses from IESG was based on either. The one I reacted to where the ones belonging to commercial websites. Which, I personally consider inappropriate an a bit rude. From my point of view the long usage and the lack of actual reported issues and minimal impact a change would have on the situation is why I cleared when I finally was engaged in any discussion on the issue. However, the goal with the statement is to cover the general issues not specific ones. Cheers Magnus Westerlund IETF Transport Area Director & TSVWG Chair----------------------------------------------------------------------Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM----------------------------------------------------------------------Ericsson AB | Phone +46 8 4048287Färögatan 6 | Fax +46 8 7575550S-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailing listIetf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf